Pod 40 - Comments

 

Robert Gill 1

Dale Cozort. 1

Wesley Kawato. 2

Dave Johnson:  2

Kurt Sidaway:  3

Dale Speirs:  3

Robert Alley. 3

Christopher Nuttall 3

 

 

Robert Gill

 

Reality seeds: 1) I have some problems with a war between Iran and Afghanistan, but it might be interesting, particularly if the Taliban decides that Iran’s too namby-pamby for their perversion of Islam, and so on…  Iran would probably take a similar path to America in 2002, bombing vital targets and supporting the opponents of the Taliban.  Pakistan might become involved in supplying the Taliban, which could lead to a really nasty situation and an Iranian rush for nukes.  Further, Russia (which OTL considered air strikes on the Taliban) might support Iran or offer to divide the county up between the three powers.  I’d really love to see a development of this.  2) Maybe more trade (port city) and a more outwards looking approach?  3) Verdict would probably be meaningless in the swarm of people doing it anyway and the absence of any proper meaning to the copyright.  I’d expect a few silly show trials.  4) I can’t see any way the Japanese can win WW2 without major changes.  If they had fantastic success with biological weapons, they might be able to convince the US to back off, or perhaps wreak the US with disease.  Or maybe the US will give up after a disaster at midway.  Or maybe the horse will learn to sing, lol.  5) Dunno. 

 

Comments to me:  I guess that the prison scandal will be worse as the US would be really p***** at the Iraqis.  OTOH, there’d be less fighting after the war ended.

 

Dale Cozort

 

Mars looks different:  Thanks for the synopsis – anyway you could send the first few parts to me?  I started with POD 38.  Few questions: could an object circling mars be seen with a small telescope anyway?  I’d expect major news comments, no matter what censorship restrictions are imposed, people will see odd things with their own eyes.  Prez can just take time on Hubble, NASA owns it (I think).  I’d have thought that fishing for tech-people would be likely to fail, the ETs couldn’t count on someone being sent in.  Good preparation for war.  What about mass construction of simple ballistic missiles and small nukes?  Once the satellites start going down, everyone will notice.  OTOH, militias might see the US Govs Actions as the final steps towards the NWO, they might try to fight. 

 

Char:  Like it so far, keep going. 

 

Seeds: 3) might be taken as a judgement from God for keeping slaves.  7) Britain might come in earlier than OTL, or someone else.  Dutch refugees try to form colonies in Canada or somewhere else away from the Spanish, French cause trouble in the Netherlands.  The armada might succeed without the need to pick up Parma’s troops.  8) Norway survives when they keep the fight going long enough for the British to mop up the German fleet and the Germans run out of supplies.  Germany suffers a defeat that damages morale just before France is invaded.  9) Hitler might be able to invade France a few days early, so maybe a quickly French defeat?  Stalin might consider a snatch and grab for Norway.  Germans needed more than their 1939 navy to invade UK anyway.   10) Computer geek heaven, lol.  Probabuly earlier amuter work at creating programs that link the different systems together without boring lawsuits from Microjerks.  Might be less US influence around the globe without Microsoft and national systems. 

 

France fights on:  Sooner or later the Germans are going to notice the new tank-building.  Other than that, no real comments.

 

Comments to me: Japan:  Yes, they’d have gotten an idea of modern war.  OTOH, they might have concluded ‘bloody nips’ and ‘stupid Ivan’s’ – ‘it won’t happen to us.’  Fire in the sky: an all out effort might defeat Germany at this point, but would cost the empire.  Iraq:  Civilian deaths in OTL were blamed on the US/UK.  I’d expect AJ and the other biased media to keep that going in ATL, unless its clearly Saddam’s fault.  (Remember, that means they have to have footage of his giving the orders and no US troops anywhere near.)  It probably would have had a morale effect, but Saddam has the tools to make their opinion irrelevant.  Launching the invasion earlier would have been a problem for the US/UK.  My reading suggests that the invasion started as soon as it was practical – start even a week earlier and the British won’t have all their tanks ready.  Yes, I envisaged the irregulars fighting in the Sunni triangle, keeping the regulars for ‘Saddamgrad’.  Finally, the US would need to root out the holdouts before they could declare victory.  They need to finish the war quickly. 

 

Wesley Kawato

 

Comments to me: oops

 

Breakpoint: Not sure I care for the appearance of God, it’s a personnel thing, so don’t take it personally.  ROTFLMAO

 

Dave Johnson:  Re your comments to Dale, I agree that Darl’s opponents would have plenty of ways to refute his claims.  Most could be checked through DNA testing, but would Darl2 have the exact same body characteristics as Darl1?  Tattoos? 

 

Kurt Sidaway:  Yep, I’m from Edinburgh.  I meant that the early-WW1 took place in 1905-onwards, not 1914.  There would be knock on effects to 1914 if global war was avoided in 1905.  Britain needs Germany as they can’t invade France (funny how a strength is also a weakness), Italy would probably join Britain.  France would lose most of its colonies in the first month of the war.  OTOH, a longer war in the far east would lead to a Russian victory unless Germany knifted them in the back.  PS, anyway you could loan me a few previous issues of POD?

 

James Fulkerson:  No comments.  Let me know how you get on with Baen.  I’m considering submitting a book I’ve nearly finished, but I don’t like the thought of nine months wasted waiting. 

 

Dale Speirs:  Technically, ‘Allah’ is really ‘Al-Lah’, or ‘The God.’  It’s a semantic wordplay designed to show that there are no others beyond Him or on the same level. 

 

Robert Alley

 

Boy, what a lot of comments. 

To me:  Japan would probably lose all its mainland possessions to Russia.  No power apart from Britain could force them to cede Taiwan, particularly if the Japanese fleet is still strong, so I guess they’d keep that.  Japan might do after the Dutch east Indies at some point, perhaps during a later global war.  A victory over Japan would probably quiet the revolutionary favour in Russia for a while, though not for long. 

 

As you say, without much repair work to their military, Russia will slip down relative to Germany.  Germany would kick hell out of them, then, or they might manage to beat France in 1914 without needing to worry about Russia.  (depending if the Germans have a good idea of the Russian’s real capabilities.).  OTL, they did expect them to take longer than they did without being able to save France. 

 

Re Iran + Saudi, I figured that there’d be a swap, Sunnis to Saudi, Shias to Iran.  The Kurds might be oppressed by all and sundry, or get their own state, or be gobbled up by Turkey. 

 

Re the EU, there are nasty anti-French currents developing in many places.  Blair’s rhetoric aside, I do wonder if the EU won’t collapse sooner or later, or at least be radically reshaped.  Even France has independence movements!  In ATL, a German/British coalition would be able to outshout France, or exclude them completely. 

 

Christopher Nuttall

 

Ok, I admit it; I’ve stolen Dales idea and am discussing my own work.  I’ve almost finished the first draft of Gunpowder Plot, 24 chapters + three appendixes and I hope to submit it to publishers soon.  Sadly, I can’t keep publishing it in POD, it’s just too big and the fees are too high.  Ch. 10, for example, is 20 pages.  A few might just be bigger after I’m finished.  If anyone would be willing to read the chapters and give comments, or knows anything about publishing, please drop me an email.

 

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